Panthers and Chiefs Busting a Block(revised)

Panther Send

Locker
Revis
LMJ
Tyvon

Chiefs Send

Russel Wilson
Casey Hayward
Felix Jones
C. Woodson


Trade Clause - if Woodson retires then the Panthers Get Tyvon back and a 2nd(bills) from the chiefs and the chiefs recieve the 19th overall pick from the panthers

deal

Veto the fuck outta this

yeah man wow review veto anything def needs to be fixed.

The pick and branch make it probably the worst trade ive ever seen.

You all obviously haven't seen the difference between the two qbs...

Locker has all accur in the mid 70s
Wilson is 89/89/91 with higher TP.

This is a qb driven league for most...

Woodson is solid (yes I know he is old) but he still has great stats
Felix is fast, and LMJ has been moved so many times its not even funny.
Revis is Revis, but Hayward is better than you all think 89man 95zone, good catching 80+play rec

IMO trade would be less rape without the pick. That just puts it over the top

I do think it's funny you pick and choose which stats to break out. How about you give an itemized breakdown of each pertinent stat - that'll show you how lopsided this really is (even not considering woodys age)

amazing how this only happens with me....

Na, I gave jeff a hard time about that Julio trade too.

My only point was that if your gonna post up some stats, post up all of em.

Yeah its not all about you cjok. Ive been hated on for deals I make. This one is just really, really bad.

But since you already traded LMJ and the pick this is all pointless. Seems like you should have waited until we figured this out. I made sure and waited enough time on mine.

Here ya go:

R.Wilson: 96tp, 89s, 89m, 91d, 86speed, 92accl, 88agl, 90throw run, 82awareness

J.Locker: 95tp, 74s, 77m, 75, 83speed, 87accl, 87agl, 83throw run, 68awareness

(Wilson has +50pts in accur, faster in every catigory, better throw run, and much better awarness)

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T.Branch: 88m, 76z, 54prs, 79playreq, 81aware, 95speed, 89accl, 85agl, 43catch

C.Woodson: 81m, 87z, 87prs, 91playreq, 96aware, 87speed, 88accl, 89agl, 79catch

(speed & man is the only thing Branch is better at, Woodson way ahead on Zone, plyreq, awarness, catch, as well as Press(even tho press doesn't mean as much in a SS, but it does in a 46 scheme such as mine)

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D.Revis: 99m, 94z, 92prs, 94playreq, 94aware, 93speed, 96accl, 96agl, 70catch

C.Hayward: 89m, 95z, 71prs, 81playreq, 75aware, 87speed, 94accl, 86agl, 80catch

(Revis does everything better, but catch the ball. Hayward does have solid cov skills tho)

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F.Jones: 95speed, 92accl, 89agl, 68cth, 80aware, 89bcv, 84elu

LMJ: 93speed, 97accl, 96agl, 73cth, 56aware, 77bcv, 93elu

(Felix better speed by alittle, much better awareness, and BCV. LMJ has better accl by alittle, better agl, and elu.)


So as you see gents, its not as bad as you thought. Please before you slam a deal, check it out a little. I take the blame for not posting stats durring the orignal posting of the deal.


I get a 1st, he gets a 4th. If I need to change the forth to a 2nd I will. But I think its fair otherwise. considering how much different the qbs are. (the guy who has the ball everyplay)

Yes, you do downgrade at QB. But Locker is one of the best low-rated guys. He does have mid 70's accuracy, but it can be upgraded and plays well and also has the speed. I'd take hm over Michael Vick easy.

As far as the safeties, 95 speed to 87 speed at safety is HUGE. Man at 88 is one of the best man coverage safeties in the game, which is nasty. Zone if good enough and cheapest stat to upgrade. You also didn't include tackle or hit power.

At CB...87 speed, come on. There are thresholds in ever stat, 87 speed at corner is laughable regardless of his stats - think antoine winfield like guys.

Please don't argue that Felix is more valuable than LMJ. LMJ has name value - yes their stats are similar, but there's no way felix is close to LMJ. Further, you didn't include carry.

The 3rd overall and 4th round swap is laughable.

Locker to Wilson is close to the same difference to Revis and Hayward (both at expensive positions too). You then get a big upgrade at S, a solid upgrade at HB, and the 3rd overall pick lol.

I would argue the drop from wilson to locker isnt nearly close to the drop from Revis to hayward. With some accuracy, which is relatively cheap, locker can be wilson. Hayward will never be revis period not in a million years.

i dont mind this deal cause u know me i pay a little extra forthe guys i like, the only thing i could think of so everyone doesnt bitch is changing the pick from #2 to #19 that i have. but other than that in all likelyhood woodson has a 95% chance that he will retire, then i get tyvon back. but either way just let me know what i have to do

This is the dumbest fucking trade I've ever seen. Take the #2 pick out and it's still a giant fucking rape.